#301 Radiation // Thrash Metal // Vrana // 15.3.2026

 

 

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1. Kto si, čo robíš, čo ťa najviac zaujíma práve v týchto dňoch ?

Nazdar, volám sa Tono ale vystupujem pod menom Vrana a venujem sa rôznym veciam od hrania v kapele, cez nákup, predaj, zbieranie a občas aj vydávanie hudobných nosičov. Mimo toho veľa pracujem, tak ako väčšina spoluobyvateľstva. V dňoch kedy píšem tieto odpovede som pomerne dosť zaneprázdnený vybavovaním objednávok a balením balíkov. Konkrétne teraz ma zaujíma zvuk gitarových zosilňovačov Laney Supergroup a Laney Klipp s ktorými Black Sabbath nahrali svoje prvé albumy. Veľmi rád by som si na nich niekedy zahral, haha.


2. Vrana, si známy z mnohých kapiel v vďaka aktivitám v UG, ktorým sa dlhé roky venuješ. Mohol by si to trochu zosumarizovať? 

Hrám okolo 20 rokov v Radiation a k tomu už štvrtým rokom v Hrob, v obidvoch na basu. S Radiation sme na konci 2024 vydali druhý album “Reactor Collapse” a k tomu sporadicky koncertujeme.. Debutový album od Hrob s názvom “Brána Chladu” vyjde v apríli tento rok a tam koncertujeme ešte sporadickejšie. Toľko k aktívnym kapelám. Predtým som hral v Goatcraft na gitaru (v začiatkoch na basu) a tiež v Demolizer na gitaru. V úplnom praveku som spieval v kapelách Mänsklig Ladugård a Sixism. Mimo kapiel mám malé vydavateľstvo s názvom Atomic Vision Productions, kde vydávam tituly hlavne svojim vlastným kapelám a venujem sa tiež reedíciám starých metalových nahrávok z tejto zabudnutej časti Európy. 





3. Kedy a ako si sa dostal k metalu a aký si mal nástup - hneď do extrémných žánrov alebo si postupne pritvrdzoval? 

Ja som ročník ‘86, čo znamená že som sa vzdelával tak nejak od stredu vývoja čo sa týka “tvrdšej” muziky, čo je pekne nahovno. V začiatkoch som musel zákonite počúvať tie najznámejšie kapely s ich najhoršími albumami [mám tým na mysli druhú polovicu 90’s a začiatok ‘00 rokov] aby som sa postupne dostal k tomu ozajstnému jadru. V tej dobe boli všetci odkázaní na nahrávky od druhých, väčšinou starších kamošov a bolo toho málo. Ja som začínal na slovenskom punku ako veľa iných. Ešte trochu skôr som ale doma našiel kazetu “Volanie Divočiny” od Tublatanky, ktorú som neskôr poznal naspamäť a potom som v telke so zatajeným dychom sledoval v seriáli Bigbít Plastikov a DG307.. Do toho som spoznával aj grunge kapely ako Nirvana, Pearl Jam a L7, keďže počas mojich ZŠ čias bolo ich zlaté obdobie. Taký väčší zlom nastal s objavom albumov od českých kapiel Törr [“Institut Klinické Smrti”] a Krabathor [“Lies”]. Toto ma totálne dostalo a v podstate kedykoľvek sa mi naskytla príležitosť si rozšíriť obzory v tomto smere, snažil som sa zháňať kazetové nahrávky prípadne napalované CD. Inak som sa na veľa rokov ponoril do HC/punk scény, chodil som na koncerty a začal som spievať v kapele, o tom ale napíšem nižšie.


4. Ako rýchlo po tom ako si začal počúvať metal si vzal do ruky nástroj a začal hrať - pamätáš si konkrétny impulz alebo moment, vďaka ktorému si sa rozhodol nebyť len poslucháč ale hudobník?


To si už nespomínam ale ako píšem vyššie ja som bol najprv HC / punk fagan a začal som tým čo bolo najjednoduchšie a to je spev. Dal som sa dokopy s kamošmi a začali sme spolu skúšať na improvizovanej výbave. Neskôr keď sa to ustálilo tak z toho vznikli Mänsklig Ladugård. Počas takmer ročnej pauzy keď si náš basák Zack liečil porezanú ruku som z kapely odišiel a začal spievať v metalovej kapele s názvom Sixism. Keďže sme nemali basáka, tak som začal popri speve aj hrať na basu. Vydali sme jedno demo na kazete a rozdali pár kusov kamošom. A vlastne ešte so Zackom sme založili taký mikro label s názvom Randall records, ktorý ale fungoval viacmenej ako distribúcia kaziet, CD, kníh a zinov.


5. V druhej polovici 90s sa v Bratislave stretávala metalová komunita v krčme U Matúša. Bol si súčasťou tejto komunity, alebo si do metalového podhubia vstúpil v inej dobe s inými ľudmi a v inej časti mesta? 


Nie, na to som bol príliš mladý. Áno jasné že si toto legendárne miesto pamätám, aj som tam zopár krát bol so staršími kamošmi a aj som sa tam fajnovo zgrcal zo zelenej, haha. Parádne to tam žilo. Ja som chodil von v mestskej časti Rača kde som aj vyrastal a neskôr sme začali chodiť do Stoky, Propeleru, Orient baru alebo do hociakej menej známej krčmy, ale hlavne niekde kde nám naliali.





6. Pamätám si, že U Matúša časť ľudí riešila UG ziny, kazetové vydavateľstvá, organizovali sa veľké výpravy na chaty a koncerty v rámci aj mimo BA a vzniklo tam pár kapiel, ktore fungovali na prelome 90s/00s, tiež priateľstvá s mikro scénami v iných mestách - pamätám na výrazné black-metalovo-alkoholické priateľstvo s Bánovcami nad Bebravou. Teda pomerne aktívna mikro scéna popri skoro každodennej konzumácii alkoholu, ktorý bol neoodeliteľnou súčasťou diania (dokonca existoval tlačený zin Alkáčik, ktorý mapoval alko udalosti tejto komunity). Ako to vyzeralo u teba a v tvojej partii - bolo to niečo podobné, alebo úplne odlišné a v akom pomere tam bola aktivita pre hudobnú scénu podporená konzumáciou jedov - na čo všetko ste sa zameriavali v rannom období vy, s ktorými kapelami a scénami ste nadviazali vzťahy a aké akcie, vydavateľstvá a ziny ste riešili?

Jasné bolo to v inej dobe, s inými luďmi a na iných miestach, ale princíp je podobný a to že s luďmi v rámci tej komunity nadväzuješ kontakty a občas z toho vznikne super akcia. Popravde už si moc nespomínam na konkrétne družby, ale mali sme a aj stále máme kamošov v iných mestách ako Malacky, Trenčín, Košice a podobne. Vďaka týmto kontaktom sme tam aj hrávali naše prvé koncerty. Metalové fanziny už žiaľ boli viacmenej mŕtve v časoch keď som hral v kapele, resp. chodil po krčmách. 


7. Kto bol pri založení Radiation a ako vzniklo prvé rovnomenné demo? Kde ste ho nahrávali, ako vyšlo a kam sa až dostalo?

Pri založení Radiation bola trojica Mrož, Jano a ja. V začiatkoch sme chvíľu v tejto zostave hrali pod pôvodným názvom Stone Liver, ale to bol asi len necelý rok. Songy sme drtili nejaké dva roky kým sme sa odvážili ísť nahrávať. Voľba padla na malé domáce štúdio punkovej kapely Kaktus v BA na Trnávke v záhradkárskej kolónii.. Na deme je samozrejme hrozne počuť našu neskúsenosť, je to celé veľmi nepresné a divoké. Ale odráža to vtedajšie schopnosti, podmienky a vybavenie ktoré sme v tej dobe mali, prípadne nemali. Vtedajší bubeník a gitarista z Beton sa tú nahrávku potom pokúšali zachrániť, lebo ten chalan v štúdiu to nevedel zvukovo sfinalizovať.. Vydal som to ja na mojom labeli Randall records v spolupráci s Biosfere records Tomáša “Lichtleho” z Betonu. Dostalo sa to poväčšine okrem SR iba do Čiech a možno zopár okolitých krajín. 


8. V roku 2011 Radiation prispel na 4-way-splitko United Metal Massacre s ďaľšou domácou kapelou Oldblood, japoncami Abigail a peruáncami R.I.P. Ako došlo k tomuto spojeniu - poznali sa kapely navzájom alebo vás dal dokopy label, na ktorom vyšla kazeta?

Kapely na tento split som dával dohromady ja. Poľský label Kampf records ktorý to vydával, nám vopred odsúhlasil že na to vyčlení prachy a všetku organizáciu nechal potom na nás. Komunikácia so všetkými kapelami bola bezproblémová, akurát potom sa vydanie trochu natiahlo kvôli labelu, ale vyšlo to a to je podstatné. 


 

9. V roku 2013 vyšlo EP Platinum Overdose, po ktorom nasledoval prvý dlhohrajúci debut The Gift of Doom na nemeckom labeli Witches Brew. Ako sa etabloval Radiation v tejto dobe na domácej a zahraničnej scéne - kde všade sa vám podarilo koncertovať a aký ohlas ste zaznamenali od thrashovej komunity?

Na podporu “The Gift of Doom” sme na jeseň 2018 vyrazili na turné s kapelami z Chile - Deathly Scythe a Ejecutor, v rámci ktorého sme si zahrali v ČR, Nemecku a Taliansku. Turné malo celkom dobrú odozvu a tuším najlepšie koncerty boli v nemeckých mestách Erfurt a Kassel. Pamätám si že v tom druhom menovanom prišlo veľa mladých miestnych metalistov, ktorí tam headbangovali ako diví.. To bola naozaj bomba.


10. Ak sa nemýlim, Radiation bola jedna z prvých domácich retro-thrashových kapiel. Ako došlo k tomu, že ste sa našli v thrash-metale, ktorý bol u nás v 90s trochu v úzadi popri boome death a black metalu? Čo viedlo mladých metalistov v ranných 2000s k vybočeniu z black/death tradície predchádzajúcej dekády a návrat k ešte staršiemu pôvodnému žánru thrash metal? 

No predsa láska k tejto muzike ! V začiatkoch keď Mrož a Janči zakladali Stone Liver (predchodca Radiation, ako som spomínal), tak naozaj bola scéna presýtená množstvom priemerných brutal death, moderných death/black metalových a prípadne doom metalových kapiel so ženským spevom a pod. Bola tu snaha robiť niečo odlišné a týmto spôsobom hrdo ukázať zdvihnutý prostredník zaužívaným pravidlám v scéne. Čisto thrash metalové akcie vtedy neexistovali, lebo by to nemalo šancu na úspech. Hrávali sme preto väčšinou na HC/punk akciách alebo death metalových koncertoch, prípadne sme občas nejakú akciu zorganizovali sami. Toto sa vlastne dodnes moc nezmenilo, haha.


11. V akom období by si povedal, že si slovenský UG začalo všímať (a rešpektovať) zahraničie? Ako a vďaka čomu sa podarilo dostať scénu z domácich krčiem a kulturákov do sveta?

Toto neviem povedať, nie som dobrý na tieto historické a štatistické veci, haha. Myslím že ako v 90s tak aj 00 rokoch sa podarilo občas nejakej tunajšej kapele vykuknúť a dostať sa pod zahraničný label, príklad za všetkých je napr. Dementor. Dnes už je to zase o niečo jednoduchšie a vďaka sociálnym sieťam a internetu je komunikácia ľahšia, takže dnes to nie je až také výnimočné získať dohodu so zahraničným vydavateľom. Ale určite to nikomu nepadne len tak z neba a treba pre to tiež niečo urobiť.


(Goatcraft) 



12. Viem že si istý čas pôsobil v death/blackových Goatcraft, s ktorými si sa dostal na šnúru v Chile. Ako došlo k tejto spolupráci a aké pamätné historky si zažil v Chile? 

Áno je to tak, v Goatcraft som hral cca 12 rokov. K spomínanému turné “Reaping Chile 2019” pomohli dve veci. Začalo to tým, že som sa zoznámil s ľuďmi z kapely Deathly Scythe, ktorej dvaja hlavní členovia sa rozhodli presťahovať z chilského Santiaga do Berlína. Keďže v podobnom období vydali Radiation aj DS čerstvé veci (my náš album “The Gift of Doom” a DS svoje MLP “Celestial Darkness”), tak mi napadlo že by sme to mohli využiť ako zámienku pre spoločné turné na jeseň 2018. Mali sme dokonca aj spoločného vydavateľa Life Eternal z Nemecka, takže to ešte viac dávalo zmysel. DS na turné dotiahli aj dlhohrajúcu kapelu z ich rodného mesta - Ejecutor a všetci sme sa počas tohto dvojtýždňového záťahu skamošili. 

Druhá vec bolo to, že Demolator zariadil aby sme s Goatcraft ešte koncom leta 2018 podporili niektoré zastávky z miniturné inej kapely z Chile - Wrathprayer a zorganizoval pre nich tiež koncert v Bratislave. 
Prešiel rok a s Goatcraft sme mali na stole ponuku na koncert v ich rodnom meste Rancagua spolu s kultovými americkými kapelami Sadistic Intent a Black Witchery, ďalej Arcada (Peru), domácimi Orion, Atomicide a ďalšími. Využili sme to a začali sme vybavovať ďalšie koncerty, pričom Ejecutor nám tiež pomohli s časťou z nich a hlavne nám poskytli zázemie v Santiagu na začiatku a aj na konci turné. Proste totálny UG proces a výsledkom bol nezabudnuteľný výlet a turné v jednom ! Zažili sme toho hrozne veľa a samozrejme aj som toho veľa pozabúdal. Spomínam si napríklad ako sme medzi zastávkami turné doslova každú voľnú minútu využili s Demolatorom na spanie aby sme sa vyhli totálnej vyčerpanosti ! To bol totálny extrém. Počas dní voľna sme odcestovali na juh krajiny niekam do blízkosti mesta Puerto Montt kde bola oproti Santiagu strašná zima. Prenajali sme si malú chatku, kde sa nekúrilo snáď od vpádu španielskych kolonizátorov a v noci aby sme nezamrzli tak sme sa striedali jeden po druhom pri peci a prikurovali drevom. Ale okrem týchto bojových príhod sme zažili množstvo srandy, zožrali sme kilá grilovaných hovädzích steakov, vypili hektolitre piva a vína s miestnymi maniakmi a k tomu počúvali ukrutné množstvá chilského metalu. Skvelé zážitky !





13. V nedávnom rozhovore s Demolatorom z Goatcraft, ten spomenul, že si v Chile údajne skoro vyvolal roztržku pretože si šiel na párty ku znepriatelenej kapele. O čo vlastne šlo, prečo tam bol konflikt a aké diplomatické skills si musel použiť, aby si to vyriešil? 

Vzťahy v rozsiahlej chilskej metalovej scéne bývajú niekedy trochu dramatické a je tam veľmi veľa rivality a závisti. Keď si k tomu pripočítaš aj ich latino temperament, tak si vieš predstaviť ako to v tejto komunite niekedy vrie. Ja som bol hlavne šťastný že tam môžem byť, takže som si svoj čas rozdelil medzi viacerých známych s ktorými som sa dovtedy poznal iba cez e-maily. Žiaľ zhodou okolností naši hostitelia z kapely Ejecutor boli na nože s frontmanom kapely Communion a počas mojej návštevy u neho nastala taká menšia aféra, tak som bol nútený nadránom moje posedenie uňho pri platniach ukončiť a švihať rýchlo taxíkom za ostatnými z kapely na párty u gitaristu Horacia z Ejecutor. Diplomatické skills už moc nehrali rolu, ale bral som to tak, že Ejecutor cítili zodpovednosť za mňa ako hosťa (Santiago je veľmi nebezpečné v niektorých štvrtiach), takže absolútne som nemohol nikomu nič zazlievať. Ale samozrejme utriaslo sa to a pred našim odchodom zo Santiaga som stihol  Deathmessiaha z Communion navštíviť ešte raz (v jeho legendárnom obchode Templo - ktorý si môžeš predstaviť ako Chilskú verziu Helvete shopu v nórskom Osle). Inak, ak si chcete užiť trochu chilského metalu, budete mať možnosť - Ejecutor odohrajú svoju slovenskú premiéru 11. júna tohto roka na Pink Whale v Bratislave.


14. Chile ma ako krajina fascinuje svojou vzdialenosťou a plánujem v blízkej budúcnosti spoznať krajinu a scénu aj prostredníctvom rozhovorov s kapelami a ľuďmi z toho prostredia. Máš tip u akých kapiel začať?


To budeš mať čo robiť ! Pre rozšírenie obzoru určite by som odporučil začať počúvaním nahrávok od starých kapiel ako napríklad ATOMIC AGGRESSOR, PENTAGRAM, BELIAL, SADISM, DEATH YELL, APOSTASY, AMMIT, TOTTEN KORPS a potom by som pokračoval novšími bandami ako CHAINSAW resp. COMMUNION, FORCE OF DARKNESS, EJECUTOR, DEATHLY SCYTHE, HORDA, BLOOD RITES, VOMIT, WRATHPRAYER, HELLAVENGER, PHANTASMAGORE, NECROLATRÍA, INVOCATION..  je toho vážne plno, toto sú akurát také vypichnuté veci ktoré sa ku mne dostali a počúvam ich. Som si istý že tie kapely budú na tvoje ponuky na rozhovor určite srdečne reagovať.

Čo sa týka prírody tak Chile je fascinujúca rozľahlá krajina, ktorá sa ťahá od suchej púšte v oblasti Atacama na severe až po ľadovcové polia na juhu ktoré siahajú až k Antarktíde !! Neuveriteľné niečo. Určite sa tam chcem niekedy v živote ešte vrátiť.


15. V posledných rokoch registrujem kapelu Hrob, ktorej skladba Blatové noci vyšla aj na JDØS kompilačke Jablká & Doom Vol.4. Ako a prečo došlo ku vzniku Hrob - mal si potrebu tvoriť odlišné veci ako pre Radiation, atď alebo skôr potrebu tvoriť veci s inými ľuďmi? Alebo je to spontánna reakcia na retro OSDM vlnu, ktorú je momentálne cítiť naprieč svetovým UG?

Hrob vznikol ešte pred mojim príchodom a založili ho Michal s Kikom. Dostal som sa k nim tak, že Michal prišiel raz k nám do nášho brlohu Temple of Horror (R.I.P.) a pustil mi pracovné nahrávky prvých songov, ktoré ma totálne odrovnali. O nejakú dobu som kývol na to, že si skúsim s nimi zahrať na skúške po odchode bubeníka a basáčky. Áno, jeden z dôvodov je, že ma po rokoch baví robiť odlišnú muziku a zároveň mi to absolútne štýlovo sedí. Neviem, či vznik kapely mal byť reakciou na svetovú old school death metal vlnu, ale myslím že možno to Michala s Kikom posmelilo v pretavení ich predstavy do skutočnosti. 


(Hrob) 



16. Aké plány máš s Hrobom v roku 2026?
 
Hlavný plán je vydať album ako spomínam vyššie. Release date je 27. apríla a vyjde to na formátoch LP, MC aj CD. Názov albumu je “Brána Chladu” a je celý naspievaný v slovenčine. Následne nás čaká release party v Bratislave v Žalári 1. mája, kapely sú ešte v jednaní. Nejaké ďalšie koncerty máme už tiež dohodnuté: 28. marec v Brne na Sibiři a 8. - 9. mája v poľskej Wroclawi na skvelom festivale Death is not the End. Mimo tohto by bolo asi fajn spraviť aj nejakú mini šnúru na podporu albumu, o tom je ale ešte skoro hovoriť.


17. Späť k Radiation - v novembri 2024 vyšiel po siedmych rokoch zatiaľ posledný album Reactor Collapse. Čo spôsobilo túto dlhšiu medzeru - pandémia, iné kapely a projekty alebo jednoducho ste nemali potrebu sa ponáhľať?

Bolo v tom viacero faktorov a určite sa na tom podielali aj tie ktoré si vymenoval.. My sme songy na tento album nahrali ešte v apríli 2022 a potom sa to natiahlo s mixovaním takmer na tri roky. Nebolo to o tom že by sme sa nemali potrebu ponáhľať. Skôr v jednom momente sme už boli natoľko znechutení z rôznych verzií mixov, že sme sami nedostatočne tlačili na to, aby sa album dostal do finálnej fázy.. Každopádne podarilo sa a výsledok máte možnosť počuť.  


18. Ako vzniká materiál k novému thrashovému albumu - ponúka thrash nevyčerpateľnú studňu riffov a hudobných postupov, alebo si treba dávať pozor či tu už náhodou nebolo niečo zahraté niekým iným?

Myslím že keď chytí Mroža tvorivá chvíľa, tak si zapíše nápad a postupne to doma kombinuje až dovtedy kým nám ostatným pošle pracovné verzie celých songov, ktoré potom na skúškach už len veľmi minimálne dotvárame. Určite je počuť že čerpáme aj z iných hudobných štýlov, hlavne z heavy metalu, prípadne starého black metalu alebo hardcore/punku. Myslím že o nejakej prehnanej originalite sa pri podobných žánroch nemá zmysel príliš baviť, vymyslené už bolo asi všetko. 




19. Pri témach Radiation mám vždy asociáciu na mojich obľúbencov Carnivore ("Into the Reactor!!") - ktoré kapely a filmy zaoberajúce sa termonukleárnou tématikov odporúčaš?


Kapely - Discharge (nr.1 navždy), Sodom, Nuclear Assault, Voivod, Toxic Holocaust, Nuclear, Radiation (haha). Filmy - The Day After [1983], Threads [1984], Mad Max [1979] a Mad Max: The Road Warrior [1981] sú klasikami. Z novších vecí seriál Chernobyl [2019].


20. Ako sa ťa dotkli crossover kapely, ktoré začali do thrashu dávať HC elementy - je to niečo čo ťa bavilo alebo vôbec?

Podľa mňa pôvodný thrash bol vlastne vetva hardcoru a to ja totálne zbožňujem. Úplne prvé veci od kapiel ako Cryptic Slaughter, DRI, Corrosion of Conformity, Agnostic Front, Siege .. to je absolútna bomba a hudobný výbuch tínedžerského hnevu a frustrácie. Ak myslíš neskoršie spájanie metalu a HC v 90-tych rokoch, tak to už ide mimo môjho vkusu a je niečím čo naozaj nemusím. 


21. Pri rýchlom spomenutí, moje top thrash albumy boli Slayer - South of Heaven, Kreator - Extreme Aggression, Sacred Reich - American Way, Carnivore - Retaliation, Demolition Hammer - Epidemic of Violence ... Ako by si ich zoradil podľa tvojej obľúbenosti, a ktoré okrem nich by si vypichol? 


U mňa by to bolo určite takto: Kreator - Extreme Aggression, Demolition Hammer - Epidemic of Violence, Slayer - South of Heaven, Carnivore - Retaliation. Sacred Reich som nikdy nepočúval. Ja by som mimo množstva iných vypichol určite Pleasure to Kill od Kreator, Sentence of Death od Destruction a Illusions od Sadus






20. Čo počúvaš, pozeráš a čítaš v týchto dňoch?

Dokola točím posledný Stangarigel, všetko od Inverloch, tiež prvý album od Venator a dlhodobo “Far Away from the Sun” od Sacramentum, to je úplne nezemský kult. Mimo metalu Cocteau Twins a Einleitungszeit. Nepozerám dokopy nič ale stále vo mne rezonuje The Substance [2024] - to je pre mňa absolútny filmový top za posledných XX rokov. Momentálne čítam Historie Smrti od Michaela Kerrigana a Revoltikon od Bruna z Hypnos/Krabathor.  


17. Je niekto s kým by si si rád prečítal rozhovor na JDØS?


Už viackrát spomínaný Jan Obluda alias Zombie Mustang from Hell. To sa Ti však asi nepodarí.


18 Motto alebo odkaz na záver.  

Motto žiadne, pretože si neviem vybrať. Ďakujem Ti za záujem a sorry za neskoré zaslanie odpovedí !

 

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Links:

https://radiationslovakia.bandcamp.com/album/reactor-collapse

https://www.facebook.com/radiationslovakia

https://www.youtube.com/@NuclearBeer 

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1. Who are you, what do you do, and what interests you the most these days?

Hi, my name is Tono, but I go by the name Vrana, and I’m involved in various things — from playing in a band to buying, selling, collecting, and occasionally even releasing music formats. Besides that I work a lot, like most of the population.

These days, while I’m writing these answers, I’m quite busy dealing with orders and packing parcels. At the moment I’m particularly interested in the sound of Laney Supergroup and Laney Klipp guitar amplifiers, which Black Sabbath used to record their first albums. I’d really love to play through them one day, haha.

2. Vrana, you’re known from many bands and also for your long-term involvement in the underground scene. Could you summarize it a bit?


I’ve been playing in Radiation for about 20 years, and for the last four years also in Hrob, in both bands on bass. With Radiation we released our second album “Reactor Collapse” at the end of 2024, and we play live occasionally. The debut album of Hrob, titled “Brána Chladu”, will be released in April this year, and with that band we play live even more sporadically.

That’s it as far as the active bands go. Before that I played guitar in Goatcraft (in the beginning on bass) and also guitar in Demolizer. In the very early days I sang in bands called Mänsklig Ladugård and Sixism.

Outside of bands I run a small label called Atomic Vision Productions, where I mainly release titles by my own bands, and I also work on reissues of old metal recordings from this forgotten part of Europe.

3. When and how did you get into metal? Did you jump straight into extreme genres or did you gradually get heavier?

I was born in 1986, which means I kind of grew up starting from the middle of the development of “heavier” music, which is pretty shitty in a way. In the beginning I inevitably had to listen to the most famous bands and their worst albums — I mean the second half of the 90s and the early 2000s — before I gradually got to the real core of things.

Back then everyone relied on recordings from other people, usually older friends, and there simply wasn’t much of it around. Like many others, I started with Slovak punk. Even a bit earlier, though, I found a cassette of “Volanie Divočiny” by Tublatanka at home, which I later knew by heart. Then I watched the TV series Bigbít almost holding my breath, where bands like The Plastic People of the Universe and DG 307 appeared.

At the same time I was discovering grunge bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and L7, since that was their golden era during my elementary school years. A bigger turning point came when I discovered albums by Czech bands Törr (“Institut Klinické Smrti”) and Krabathor (“Lies”). That totally blew my mind, and whenever I had the chance to expand my horizons in that direction, I tried to hunt down cassette recordings or burned CDs.

Otherwise I immersed myself in the hardcore/punk scene for many years — going to concerts and eventually starting to sing in a band. But I’ll talk about that a bit later.





4. How soon after you started listening to metal did you pick up an instrument and start playing? Do you remember a specific impulse or moment that made you decide not to be just a listener but a musician?


I don’t really remember that anymore, but as I mentioned above, I first came from the HC/punk kid background and started with the easiest thing, which was singing. I got together with some friends and we started rehearsing using improvised equipment. Later, when things stabilized a bit, the band Mänsklig Ladugård emerged from that.

During a nearly year-long break, when our bassist Zack was recovering from a cut hand, I left the band and started singing in a metal band called Sixism. Since we didn’t have a bass player, I began playing bass while singing. We released one demo on cassette and handed out a few copies to friends.

At the same time, Zack and I started a kind of micro-label called Randall Records, which mostly functioned as a distribution point for tapes, CDs, books, and zines.

5. In the second half of the 90s the metal community in Bratislava used to gather in the pub U Matúša. Were you part of that community, or did you enter the metal underground at a different time, with different people and in another part of the city?

No, I was too young for that. Of course I remember this legendary place, and I went there a few times with older friends. I even threw up nicely there once after drinking too much green liquor, haha. The place was really lively.

I mostly hung out in the Rača district, where I grew up, and later we started going to Stoka, Propeler, Orient Bar, or basically any less-known pub — as long as they would serve us drinks.

6. I remember that at U Matúša some people were involved in underground zines, cassette labels, big trips to cabins and concerts both inside and outside Bratislava, and a few bands were formed there around the turn of the 90s/00s. There were also friendships with micro-scenes in other towns — I remember a strong black-metal-and-alcohol friendship with people from Bánovce nad Bebravou. So there was quite an active micro-scene alongside almost daily alcohol consumption, which was an inseparable part of it (there was even a printed zine called Alkáčik documenting the drinking adventures of this community). What did it look like for you and your circle? Was it something similar, or completely different? How much of your activity around the scene was accompanied by “consuming poisons”? What were you focusing on in those early days — which bands and scenes did you connect with, and what events, labels, or zines were you involved in?

Sure, it was a different time, with different people and different places, but the principle was similar — you build contacts with people within that community and sometimes something great comes out of it.

To be honest, I don’t remember many specific alliances anymore, but we had — and still have — friends in other cities like Malacky, Trenčín, Košice, and so on. Thanks to these contacts we also played our first concerts there.

Unfortunately, metal fanzines were already more or less dead by the time I was actively playing in bands and hanging around pubs.



 

7. Who was involved in the founding of Radiation, and how did the first self-titled demo come about? Where did you record it, how was it released, and how far did it spread?

Radiation was founded by Mrož, Jano, and me. In the beginning we played for a short time under the original name Stone Liver, but that lasted maybe less than a year.

We rehearsed the songs for about two years before we finally dared to go and record them. We chose a small home studio run by the punk band Kaktus in Bratislava, in the Trnávka gardening colony.

You can clearly hear our inexperience on the demo — it’s very sloppy and wild. But it reflects the abilities, conditions, and equipment we had — or didn’t have — at that time.

Later the drummer and guitarist from Beton tried to rescue the recording a bit, because the guy in the studio couldn’t really finish the sound properly. I released it myself on my label Randall Records, in cooperation with Biosfere Records, run by Tomáš “Lichtle” from Beton.

Apart from Slovakia it mostly reached the Czech Republic, and maybe a few nearby countries.

8. In 2011 Radiation contributed to the four-way split United Metal Massacre together with another local band Oldblood, the Japanese band Abigail, and the Peruvian band R.I.P. How did this connection come about? Did the bands already know each other, or were you brought together by the label that released the cassette?

I was actually the one who put the bands together for that split. The Polish label Kampf Records, which released it, approved the budget in advance and then left the whole organization to us.

Communication with all the bands was smooth. The only issue was that the release got a bit delayed because of the label, but in the end it came out, and that’s what matters.





9. In 2013 the EP Platinum Overdose was released, followed by the first full-length debut The Gift of Doom on the German label Witches Brew. How did Radiation establish itself during this period on the local and international scene? Where did you manage to play, and what kind of response did you receive from the thrash community?

To support The Gift of Doom, we went on tour in the autumn of 2018 with the Chilean bands Deathly Scythe and Ejecutor. During that tour we played in the Czech Republic, Germany, and Italy. The tour had a pretty good response, and I think the best shows were in the German cities of Erfurt and Kassel.

I remember that in Kassel a lot of young local metalheads showed up and were headbanging like crazy. That was really awesome.

10. If I’m not mistaken, Radiation was one of the first local retro-thrash bands. How did it happen that you found yourselves in thrash metal, which in the 90s was somewhat in the background here compared to the boom of death and black metal? What led young metalheads in the early 2000s to step away from the black/death tradition of the previous decade and return to the even older original genre of thrash metal?

Well, simply the love for this music! In the early days when Mrož and Janči founded Stone Liver (the predecessor of Radiation, as I mentioned earlier), the scene was really saturated with many average brutal death, modern death/black metal, or doom metal bands with female vocals and similar stuff.

There was an effort to do something different and proudly show a raised middle finger to the established rules of the scene. Pure thrash metal shows didn’t really exist back then because they wouldn’t have had much chance of success. So we mostly played HC/punk gigs or death metal shows, and occasionally we organized our own events. Actually, this hasn’t changed much to this day, haha.





11. In which period would you say the Slovak underground started being noticed (and respected) abroad? How did the scene manage to get from local pubs and cultural centers out into the wider world?

I honestly can’t say — I’m not very good with historical or statistical questions like that, haha. I think that both in the 90s and the 2000s, some local bands occasionally managed to break out and sign with foreign labels. A good example would be Dementor.

Today it’s a bit easier, thanks to social media and the internet, which make communication simpler. So nowadays it’s not that unusual to get a deal with a foreign label. But of course nothing just falls from the sky — you still have to put in some work.

12. I know you spent some time playing in the death/black band Goatcraft, with whom you even toured in Chile. How did this collaboration happen, and what memorable stories did you experience there?

Yes, that’s right — I played in Goatcraft for about 12 years. Two things helped make the “Reaping Chile 2019” tour happen. It started when I got to know the people from Deathly Scythe, whose two main members decided to move from Santiago, Chile to Berlin. Around the same time both Radiation and Deathly Scythe had fresh releases — we had our album The Gift of Doom and they had their MLP Celestial Darkness.

So I thought we could use that as an excuse for a joint tour in autumn 2018. We even had the same label, Life Eternal from Germany, so it made even more sense. Deathly Scythe also brought along a long-running band from their hometown, Ejecutor, and during those two weeks on the road we all became friends.

The second factor was that Demolator arranged for us with Goatcraft to support several stops on a mini-tour by another Chilean band, Wrathprayer, in late summer 2018, and he also organized a show for them in Bratislava.

A year later, Goatcraft received an offer to play a show in their hometown Rancagua, together with cult American bands Sadistic Intent and Black Witchery, as well as Arcada from Peru and local bands Orion, Atomicide, and others. We took the opportunity and started arranging additional concerts. Ejecutor also helped us with some of them and, most importantly, provided us with a base in Santiago at both the beginning and the end of the tour.

It was a totally underground process, and the result was an unforgettable trip and tour in one. We experienced a lot — and of course I’ve already forgotten plenty of it. I remember, for example, how Demolator and I used every free minute between shows to sleep, just to avoid total exhaustion. That was really extreme.

During our days off we traveled south, somewhere near Puerto Montt, where it was freezing compared to Santiago. We rented a small cabin that probably hadn’t been heated since the Spanish colonial invasion, and at night we took turns keeping the stove going with firewood so we wouldn’t freeze.

But besides these battle stories we also had a lot of fun — we ate kilos of grilled beef steaks, drank hectoliters of beer and wine with the local maniacs, and listened to huge amounts of Chilean metal.


(Demolizer) 



13. In a recent interview with Demolator from Goatcraft, he mentioned that you almost caused a dispute in Chile because you went to a party hosted by a rival band. What actually happened, why was there a conflict, and what diplomatic skills did you have to use to sort it out?

Relationships within the extensive Chilean metal scene can sometimes be a bit dramatic, with a lot of rivalry and jealousy involved. If you add the Latino temperament on top of that, you can imagine how things can occasionally get heated in that community.

I was just happy to be there, so I divided my time between several acquaintances whom I had previously only known through emails. Unfortunately, by coincidence, our hosts from the band Ejecutor were at odds with the frontman of the band Communion. During my visit to his place, a small situation developed, so in the early morning I had to abruptly end our record-listening session and quickly take a taxi to rejoin the rest of the band at a party hosted by Horacio, the guitarist of Ejecutor.

At that point, diplomatic skills didn’t really matter anymore. I understood that Ejecutor felt responsible for me as their guest—especially since Santiago can be quite dangerous in certain neighborhoods—so I couldn’t really blame anyone. In the end it all settled down, and before we left Santiago I managed to visit Deathmessiah from Communion once more in his legendary shop Templo—which you could imagine as the Chilean equivalent of the Helvete store in Oslo.

By the way, if you’d like to experience some Chilean metal live, you’ll have the chance: Ejecutor will play their Slovak premiere on June 11 this year at Pink Whale.

14. Chile fascinates me as a country because of its remoteness, and in the near future I plan to explore both the country and its scene through interviews with bands and people from there. Do you have any tips on which bands to start with?

You’ll definitely have your hands full! To broaden your horizons, I would recommend starting with recordings by older bands such as Atomic Aggressor, Pentagram Chile, Belial, Sadism, Death Yell, Apostasy, Ammut and Totten Korps.

Then I would move on to newer bands like Chainsaw / Communion, Force of Darkness, Ejecutor, Deathly Scythe, Horda, Blood Rites, Vomit, Wrathprayer, Hellavenger, Phantasmagore, Necrolatría and Invocation. There are really many more—these are just some that came my way and that I enjoy listening to. I’m sure these bands would respond warmly to interview requests.

As for nature, Chile is a fascinating and vast country stretching from the dry Atacama Desert in the north all the way down to the southern glacial fields that reach toward Antarctica. Truly incredible. I definitely want to return there again someday.





15. In recent years I’ve noticed the band Hrob, whose song “Blatové noci” also appeared on the JDØS compilation Jablká & Doom Vol. 4. How and why did Hrob come into existence? Did you feel the need to create something different from Radiation, or rather to work with different people? Or was it more a spontaneous reaction to the current retro OSDM wave spreading across the global underground?

Hrob actually existed before I joined; it was founded by Michal and Kiko. I got involved when Michal once came to our den, Temple of Horror (R.I.P.), and played me the demo recordings of the first songs, which completely blew me away. Some time later I agreed to try playing with them at rehearsal after their drummer and bassist had left.

Yes, one of the reasons is that after many years I enjoy making different music, and stylistically it suits me perfectly. I’m not sure whether the band’s creation was meant as a reaction to the worldwide old-school death metal wave, but perhaps it encouraged Michal and Kiko to turn their vision into reality.

16. What plans do you have with Hrob in 2026?

The main plan is to release the album I mentioned earlier. The release date is April 27, and it will come out on LP, cassette and CD. The album is titled Brána Chladu and the lyrics are entirely in Slovak.

After that we’ll have a release party in Bratislava at Žalár on May 1; the supporting bands are still being finalized. We already have some additional shows booked as well: March 28 in Brno at Sibiř, and May 8–9 in Wrocław at the excellent festival Death Is Not the End.

Beyond that, it would be great to organize a small tour in support of the album, but it’s still a bit early to talk about that.

17. Back to Radiation — in November 2024 you released your latest album Reactor Collapse after a seven-year gap. What caused this longer break — the pandemic, other bands and projects, or simply no need to rush?

There were several factors involved, and the ones you mentioned certainly played a role as well. We actually recorded the songs for this album back in April 2022, and then the mixing process dragged on for almost three years. It wasn’t that we didn’t feel the need to hurry. At some point we just became so fed up with the different mix versions that we ourselves didn’t push hard enough to get the album into its final stage. In any case, we eventually managed it — and now you can hear the result.





18. How does material for a new thrash album come together? Does thrash offer an endless well of riffs and musical ideas, or do you have to watch out so you don’t accidentally play something that someone else has already done?

I think when Mrož gets a creative moment, he writes down an idea and gradually works on it at home, combining things until he sends the rest of us demo versions of entire songs. Then at rehearsals we usually only make very minor adjustments. You can definitely hear that we also draw from other styles, mainly heavy metal, sometimes old black metal or hardcore/punk. I don’t think it makes much sense to talk about excessive originality in genres like this — everything has probably already been invented.

19. When it comes to Radiation’s themes, I always associate them with one of my favorite bands, Carnivore (“Into the Reactor!!”). Which bands and films dealing with thermonuclear themes would you recommend?

Bands — Discharge (number one forever), Sodom, Nuclear Assault, Voivod, Toxic Holocaust, Nuclear, Radiation (haha).

Films — The Day After, Threads, Mad Max and Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior are classics. Among newer things, the series Chernobyl.

20. How did crossover bands that started mixing hardcore elements into thrash affect you? Was that something you enjoyed or not really?

In my opinion, early thrash was basically a branch of hardcore, and I absolutely love that. The very first releases from bands like Cryptic Slaughter, Dirty Rotten Imbeciles, Corrosion of Conformity, Agnostic Front, and Siege — that’s an absolute blast and a musical explosion of teenage anger and frustration.

If you mean the later fusion of metal and hardcore in the 1990s, that’s already outside my taste and something I really don’t care for.

21. Off the top of my head, my favorite thrash albums would be South of Heaven by Slayer, Extreme Aggression by Kreator, The American Way by Sacred Reich, Retaliation by Carnivore and Epidemic of Violence by Demolition Hammer. How would you rank them according to your own preference, and which others would you highlight?

For me it would definitely be: Kreator – Extreme Aggression, Demolition Hammer – Epidemic of Violence, Slayer – South of Heaven, Carnivore – Retaliation. I’ve actually never listened to Sacred Reich.

Outside of those, I would definitely highlight Pleasure to Kill by Kreator, Sentence of Death by Destruction, and Illusions by Sadus.

22. What are you listening to, watching, and reading these days?

I keep spinning the latest album by Stangarigel, everything by Inverloch, also the debut album by Venator, and for a long time now Far Away from the Sun by Sacramentum — that’s an absolutely otherworldly cult. Outside of metal, Cocteau Twins and Einleitungszeit.

I hardly watch anything, but The Substance still resonates strongly with me — for me it’s an absolute cinematic highlight of the past decades. Right now I’m reading Historie smrti by Michael Kerrigan and Revoltikon by Bruno Kovařík.

23. Is there someone you’d like to see interviewed on JDØS?


The already-mentioned Jan Obluda, also known as Zombie Mustang from Hell. But you probably won’t manage that.

24. A motto or final message?

No motto, because I can’t choose one. Thanks for your interest — and sorry for sending the answers so late!

 

#181 Flork Reviews: Elicea - OD (EP, 2026)


 

Elicea - OD (EP, 2026)
By Flork


Sometimes the most interesting releases come in the smallest packages. The new EP from Elicea clocks in at barely six minutes (there are 4 tracks), yet it manages to cram a strange and compelling blend of styles into that short runtime, with elements of crust, punk , black metal, and touches of DSBM atmosphere sprinkled throughout. There might even be hints of folk and definitely pop-punk melody. I like their sound, because the result feels raw and captivating, kind of like stumbling upon a one-man show street busker rocking out extreme metal through a battered guitar and foot-pedal drum set. The opening Intro (Prod. Wynn) is brief and sets the tone in just over a minute. It is a bit lo-fi and slightly eerie, and intentionally minimal. Perhaps it prepares the listener for the stripped-down aesthetic that defines the whole release.

But the EP really begins with Till Fucking Overdose. Here the project’s character becomes clear. The track moves slowly but carries a noticeable bite. Instead of relying on speed, it builds tension through its raw guitar tone and surprisingly expressive percussion. The hi-hat patterns stand out in particular, which gives the song a rhythmic texture that keeps it moving despite the slow pace. But I must note that the vocals are one of its strongest elements and cool as well. They are harsh, demonic, and undoubtedly emotionally charged.



 

Free Yourself follows with a similar structure but pushes the intensity slightly further. It feels heavier and more focused, almost like the emotional center of the EP. Again, the percussion plays a crucial role, with simple but knocks on the cow bell that add character to the minimal instrumentation. The song gives the impression that this project might be a one-person operation because of its roughness around the edges. But it is defintely full of personality. The set closes with the Rudimentary Peni cover, Army of Jesus, which serves as a fitting bonus track. Stripped down and labeled as a “raw free cover,” it embraces the DIY spirit completely. This is a sort of "snap your fingers to the beat of black metal" kind of tune, if that makes any sense.

And the Florkman's prognosis? In just a few minutes, Elicea delivers a rough, but pretty cool mix of black metal, crust punk, and DSBM, with elements of folk and flashes of pop-punk attitude. It's a bit of a mess, but I have to admit that I like the Ep. It’s brief, raw, and imperfect, which gives it its charm. Elicea is not new to the scene, but are so underground that you might miss them if you blink to long and hard. For listeners who appreciate DIY, this tiny EP nevertheless leaves a surprisingly strong impression.

JDØS Special: Maria - Metalhead from Chile // 11/03/202

 


 

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1. Hello Maria — please tell us who you are, what you do, and what interests you most these days.

Hi Tomas. Well, I think I'm a mixture of things. I'm a Chilean woman, a mom, a teacher, a housewife who likes to cook and do handcrafts, and DIY projects. But no matter what I do, there's always music playing in the background. Maybe because of that, many people would describe me as a metalhead, but nowadays I feel that label is no longer the primal part of who I am, because the other parts of my life have taken a lot of space and time, specially being a mom. Also, I am now much open minded about the music I listen to. However, Metal has been and still is pretty much the soundtrack of my life. 


2. How did metal first enter your life in Chile? Was there a specific moment, album, or person that pulled you into it? 

My reach for the more underground bands happened in an arcade games center we used to go after school every day with my classmates. We were from a very strict Catholic German school of nuns only for girls in the south of Chile. So I was wearing my school  uniform, but had my black denim backpack with the logo of all the bands I liked written with liquid on it. Most of the bands I liked at the beginning were the typical you start with: Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, Slayer, Pantera, and some others which were sounding on the local rock radio in those times. In my city, Puerto Montt, there were lots of "Thrashers" around. "Thrasher" was the term for any metalhead back then.  



 

Those guys, who were much older than us (early 20s) looked at our backpacks and sort of "adopted" us. They started giving us tapes of Death, Morbid Angel, Possessed, Deicide, Venom, Bathory, etc. But the crucial moment was when a friend of mine, who was into the 2nd wave of Black Metal (and he actually had a band with Walter from Hetroertzen, who is also from my region, together with Gianina), he lend me the CD of Dark Medieval Times of Satyricon. He told me to lock myself in my room, turn off the lights, light some candles and listen to the CD fully. I followed his indication to the foot of the letter, and it changed me forever. I must have been 13, almost 14, year '98. Every since then, I got super into the 2nd wave of Black Metal, and to my fortune in that region of Chile there were, and still are, lots of bands worshipers of that specific genre. 


3. What is your first concert memory, and what was the first album you purchased with your own money?

During my time in the south, I only saw gigs with Chilean bands. My first international concert was after I graduated from high shool. I was 17 when I started university in the capital, and this city was the only city where bands from abroad were coming to play. I remember it was Dark Funeral in 2003. Another memorable one was Iron Maiden in 2004. I was totally front line completely hugged to the fence, waiting under the sun for about 7 hours in plain summer, without food nor water. They were spraying us water with hoses, so we were just opening our mouths, to drink and not faint. I made it, and I sang so much I lost my voice! Morbid Angel in 2004 was also a killer one! The set list was 50/50 Covenant and Altars!! From then on, every month I went to some concert or gig! 

About my first album, I think it was when I was around 13, I bought 2 CDs: "The Best of The Beast" of Iron Maiden, and "The Best of Judas Priest: Living after midnight" of Judas

 



4. Chile sits between deserts, mountains, ocean, and active volcanoes - where in Chile do you come from, and how did you perceive this natural extremity? Did you ever feel a connection with something almost unnatural - Lovecraftian even - and did it create any inclination toward darkness and metal? Would you say these conditions are ideal for extreme music?

Yeah! I am from the south of Chile, a city called Puerto Montt, which is like the entrance door to Patagonia. It's in the coast, and around there are islands, fjords, vast virgin forests, active volcanoes, and national parks. In that part of Chile it's quite cold. It rains 10 months a year, and the temperature never rises above 25, even in plain summer. Usually it doesn't snow in the low lands near the coast, but volcanoes are always snowed in their peaks. The typical temperature is about 5 to 10 degrees Celsius. 

I've always assimilated those landscapes, those smells, the sea, the forest, the rain, with the records my father used to play in the car (Credence Clearwater Revival, ZZ Top, Led Zeppelin, etc), or the ones I had on my personal stereo. Also, in that region there is a very mystical big island which in the old days (not so long ago) there was a lot of witchery going on, even reigning the law. Then, to the north of Chile, the landscape changes, and in the Atacama desert you have completely different landscapes, ghost towns and their own tales, which have to do more with the stars and UFO sightings as well. I have never been to the north, unfortunately, but I plan to visit in the near future. 


5. When living in Chile, do you ever feel a sense of isolation (given the distance from the rest of the world), or not really because the community is tight and self-sufficient?

In general, we Chileans feel pretty much like living on an island, because of its geographical isolation. To the north you have the driest desert on earth, Atacama, which is pretty difficult to be crossed by foot. To the south you have Antarctica, and actually from Punta Arenas, the biggest southernmost city in Chile, you can take a ship to cross to Antarctica. 

 

 

Then to the East we have Los Andes mountain range, which divides us with Argentina, and the tallest peaks are about 7 kilometers! And to the west we have the vast Pacific Ocean. The capital, Santiago is almost in the center region of the country, and it's pretty centralized. About 40% of the whole population lives there, and everything happens there. It has an international airport, so 99% of the concerts happen only there. But the extreme south and north feel like a different country. It's already a big odyssey for people from the extreme regions to travel to Santiago, sometimes 2 days by bus in the middle of the week just to see a band. However, still Chileans take pride in this, in being apart from the rest. This is why our accent in Spanish has degenerated so much, so we are like the Australian speaking English, if you know what I mean.


6. From your perspective, what makes the Chilean metal scene distinct compared to scenes you’ve encountered elsewhere? Which foreign scenes feel closest to the Chilean spirit?

It's funny because in general us, South American metalheads, always dream about the metal scene in Europe. Going to these huge festivals where hundreds of bands play that you would never ever dream of seeing stepping foot in your country. Therefore, all the bands that do go to South America, the fans REALLY demonstrate their gratitude and get super crazy! The people in South America are fucking insane! Their level of passion, fire, and total madness display, it's different... The audience is more how you see it in the early 80s videoclips of classic bands. 

For example, in 2016 I moved to Finland and lived there for 3 years until 2018. I remember thinking I was going to the "Metal Meca", one of the most metal countries in the world. I love many bands from there, and I can't say I didn't enjoy the experience, on the contrary, I loved it. But honestly I was somewhat disappointed about the audience. I started to get homesick, I started to think about Chile, and wishing I would see the bands and concerts there again. That feeling has stayed with me in general, regarding Europe. I think the place where I feel a level of madness and passion in the audience, which reminds me of SA and Chile, is Poland. I love the scene there. But I also feel that their craziness sometimes can turn into bonehead aggression. There's a blurry line that sometimes I've seen get transgressed, where you don't know if they are loving the music or just loving to punch another dude to the ground. Talking about the SA scene, I think Brazil, Chile and Colombia, have the strongest ones, in terms of activity, devotion, and passion. 






7. Chile is a very long country from north to south — could you describe which locations are most interesting for metal (or other underground genres) and what makes them unique?

So, as I said before in my region (X region of the Lakes in the south) there's a big Black Metal scene, maybe influenced by the dark and cold forest, fjords, witchery and whatnot. Then, in the central regions, and pretty much all through Chile, there's a big Death Metal scene, where everyone is possessed about Possessed and Morbid Angel haha! 

Valparaiso, is a region to the coast near the capital, and there's something about this place, that is SO fruitful, with hundreds of great Thrash, heavy, speed metal bands come from. There's a city there called Quilpué (pronounced Kill-pue!) where Tomas Araya was born, it's full of great bands! Then, through the whole length of the country they are also possessed by War metal. So much, I grew a bit tired of it! I think that in general in Chile, you can find pretty interesting gems, but they are always influenced by the early German Thrash, or the early Death metal from Florida, or the 1st wave of BM like Celtic Frost, Venom, and Bathory, but all of them have a South American touch that makes them a bit raw, and rough around the edges, and a sound that wanting or not, always turns to be a bit dirtier, which I love. And many other bands, you would never guess they are from Chile because they sound so European!


8. Could you describe the history of Chilean metal? When did it start, and what were the most important milestones?

It started in the early 80s, before I was born ('85), during the dictatorship. We had a disgustingly long dictatorship between 1973 and 1990. Mostly, there were heavy and thrash metal bands, and some death metal as well. The "grandpas" of the Chilean scene tell me they were gathering in a part of Santiago, where they were holding some clandestine gigs. 

Back in the day if they had long hair, wore black clothes and patches, they were considered hippies, punks and communists (it's funny to think that here, in that that time Czechoslovakia, considered the metalheads "anticommunists" for the very same reasons!). So many times they were arrested only for walking the streets looking like that! That, for sure, influenced the rage with which they wrote their lyrics and played their instruments. 

Some of the most important bands from 80s and that still play or are still a big influence in the scene are Atomic Aggressor (death metal formed in 85), Pentagram Chile (Thrash death also from 85), Death Yell (Death/Black from 88), Sadism (Death from 88), Darkness (Death from 88), Totten Korps (death from 89), Apostasy (Thrash- Black Thrash from 88). There may be more, but those come to mind right now.



 

9. Which Chilean bands do you consider the most important or interesting across different decades, and why?

Besides the ones mentioned above, which are great and important for us, specially Atomic Aggressor and Death Yell, there are many and of different genres that I consider original and great! There are hundreds of bands that combine traditional old school with the South American primitive energy, rawness and bestiality, and their influences vary; you cannot place them into one clear label. I really like the blurry lines when it comes to music. 

Bands such as Bewitched (Heavy/Doom/Black from the 90s), with a very weird sound but amazing compositions, and kind of bizarre in the good sense. Then you have Attacker Bloody Axe, from Valdivia, said to be black thrash, but with some speed and rocky edges. Force of Darkness (Black/Death/Thrash) who takes the best from the old school South American era but add some technical edges. Hades Archer (Bestial Black), specially polemic for their "Penis Metal" album which has lots of hatred towards women, but to be honest, no offense taken on my side! Then you have Abisma, a black metal band from my city whose main clear influence is the early Greek black metal, but adds the raw and dirty edges of South American vibe. 

There are some melodic bands as well, such as Inanna, Death Metal with technical riffs combined with kind of ethereal passages (specially their first Lp). There are some very good Doom metal bands as well, such as Procession, Capilla Ardiente, Poema Arcanus, and some doom death such as Mar de Grises, and Folk Doom by Uaral. When it comes to heavy metal you have Asedio. Then Acero Letal and Asedio, both bands will come for a tour in Europe this year (check them out!). A special mention to Rock and Ron, a short lived project who make dirty crossover/trash, or the rawest punk you could imagine. With very offensive lyrics ins Chilean slang, but maximum to the core! I could go on and on about bands, but whoever gets into the task of finding Chilean gems, has a LOT to discover!


 

10. In the early ’90s, certain individuals in Norway pushed the boundaries of the genre not only musically but through events that led to imprisonments, etc. Did this period have any impact on Chilean metal? Were there comparable developments in the local underground?

Yes, we all knew what was going on there. I'd say the 2nd wave of BM was very influential as a music. In terms of church burnings, murders, etc., we have had our share as well, but for more political reasons. Although, there's a famous case I can tell you about, which may seem incredible, but it's 100% true. 

So, story time:  in 2004, Rodrigo Orias, a Black Metal maniac from the frozen lands of Coyhaique, a city in the heart of Patagonia, came to the capital and went to the Cathedral. He entered in the middle of the mass, took a special dagger he had, went to the priest and screamed "Hail Satan!" and slit the priest's throat! After that, he smeared himself with the priest's blood while saying more satanic spells and tried to cut his own throat. The churchgoers were in shock, and police were called, so he didn't kill himself and was arrested. I still remember it was all over the media in those times, in the morning shows psychologists, priests, experts in sects, spiritists, all these people were called, interviewed to talk about the matter. Everybody analized Orias' tattooes, Deicide lyrics were translated and analyzed, etc. He was found not guilty because allegedly he had schizophrenia. However, a few months later, Deicide announced their coming with huge posters of Jesus face shot in the forehead. This was very polemic, and the church tried to move their influences to prevent their concert, but they were powerless, and the concert happen. It was Deicide's very first concert in Chile. I remember it like yesterday, I arrived to see hundreds of metalheads in a huge line waiting for the gates to open, the queue of maniacs was turning the streets. Right across the street, there must have been like 200 special forces cops, wearing helmets, machine guns and shields, as if they were getting ready to fight the priest-killers!! LOL! I was a young 19-year old, and had drunk a fair share of alcohol to heat the motors before the gig, and by the time I arrived to the line, I was feeling ready to vomit, and with that stupidly drunk mind I crossed the street and found no better place than to vomit at a cop's foot. The cops were looking at me, I was saying "sorry!!" and all I could hear was the metalheads across the street cheering and screaming "OHHH, brutaaal!!", "Vomit the Soul!" and shit like that! LOL! So I washed in a nearby bathroom, and was ready for Deicide. Quite memorable experience! 


11. I read in a recent interview with Mateo from Goatcraft about conflicts between Chilean bands — is this a common occurrence? What are the typical causes, and how far can this animosity go?


This is true, unfortunately. We tend to have our own Metal Telenovelas. Always someone fighting, some gossip going on, and shit like that! The typical causes are when someone ripped-off somebody else, or said something nasty about someone, and then the word spreads and grows, versions change, you don't know who's telling the truth, etc. It's our own hell on earth. 

Nowadays I think it's happening less and less, because the generations of metalheads are older and wiser, maybe. But some animosity has come as far as death threats, although it never gets to that point in reality. But it's something that makes everyone tired and sick of it! It's kind of the only reason why I am happy to be far away now.




12. Even before the Norwegian scene gained notoriety, bands in Czechoslovakia were experimenting with Quorthon’s legacy - were these known in Chile? Did any Slovak or Czech music reach the scene, and how was it perceived?

Yes, I can say Master's Hammer, Törr, and Root have always been very important for Chileans. I think that raw sound, dark riffing, combined with Czech singing felt really powerful and original for the Chilean audience. One of the main characteristics of the Chilean maniacs is that they dig a lot and deep into the scenes of remote and far places. In general, the bands from Ost Block, like Kat from Poland, for example, made quite the impression as well. 

There are so many collectors who have first presses of old Slovak and Czech (or Czechoslovak) bands, such as the before mentioned, Tublatanka, Gladiator, Metalinda, and even some Olympic! Master's Hammer played in Chile in 2018 a single show in a bar called Lemmy, and it was so full, people tell me not a single soul more could fit there. Unfortunately, I wasn't there because in that time I was living in Finland. Nowadays, Malokarpatan has made quite the impression, and the fans are dying to see them to play there, and Krolok as well. Hopefully, it happens one day! 


13. Can you share something about Chilean mythology? Are there darker myths or legends that inspire the local scene?

Yes, as I mentioned before, in the big island called Chiloé, which really is an archipelago right in front of my hometown, in the X region. It has its own mythology, witch tales and the vibe is pretty dark. The Recta Provincia (or "The Right Province") was a occult sect of warlocks, but they are not a mere campfire story; it was a shadow government of sorcerers that ruled Chiloé with an iron fist for centuries. Known locally as the La Mayoría, this clandestine tribunal blended indigenous Huilliche (native people from that area) traditions with European occultism to enforce their own brutal brand of justice. While the official Chilean government was far away in Santiago, the warlocks held the true power in the archipelago until the late 19th century. They divided the islands into "states" governed by kings and viceroys. Their laws were enforced through extortion, poisoning, and the supernatural. Their headquarters was a subterranean lair hidden in the cliffs, a cave called Quicaví, which was said to be guarded by Invunche, a kidnapped infant transformed into a monster by breaking its limbs and sewing its skin together. They claimed to possess the Macuñ, a luminous vest made from the skin of a virgin's chest, which allowed them to fly and glow in the dark of night.

The line between reality and myth blurred because the Recta Provincia wanted it that way; the more people believed in their magic, the easier it was to control them without firing a single shot. Beyond Chiloé, there are more myths and legends, that vary according to the region. These legends characterize the Chilean wilderness as a space governed by spirits and creatures that punish those who disrespect the environment or wander into remote areas unprepared.



14. Is local mythology a strong theme in metal there, or do bands tend toward more traditional satanic or nihilistic topics?

Not strong enough theme. I'd totally love it if bands would be more inspired in these kind of topics. In fact, I'm starting a project that is inspired in the Mythology of Chiloé. It's still in the making, but all I can say is that it's going to be a conceptual album. I think most of the bands are more traditional, and their lyrics are more about satanism, occultism, etc. Some bands have also used their music as a way of protest about the political issues of The Mapuche conflict, which is a long-standing struggle over ancestral lands and indigenous sovereignty that were seized by the Chilean state during the late 19th-century military occupation known as the "Pacification of Araucanía." 

This tension frequently manifests in protests, land occupations, and legal battles, as Mapuche communities demand the restoration of their territory and formal recognition of their cultural and political rights. Also, some bands dedicate their music and inspire their lyrics on exterminated indigenous cultures from Chile, honoring their traditions as a way to enshrine the legacy of those lost to genocide. For example, Xalpen is a black metal band, that has actually played in Bratislava (twice!), that draws deep inspiration from the Selk’nam culture of Tierra del Fuego, utilizing their music to preserve their memory, and immortalize their heritage, spiritual beliefs, and complex rituals of a people nearly erased by systemic genocide.


15. If I visit Chile, what are the top five places I should experience?

This is a tough one! It depends on your personal preferences. You have to think that Chile is so long that if you put it on top of Europe, it stretches from south of Spain to the north of Norway. Therefore, we have every kind of weather and landscape, except for tropical. So if you are into the beach, there are beautiful beaches all along the coast. Chile is so narrow that you can Ski in the morning in the mountains and surf in the afternoon on a beach. 

Now, to the north you have the Atacama desert, which resembles Mars or the Moon. Sandy dunes, salt lakes of different colours, and special fauna like flamingos and llamas. There's also a flowered desert, which is beautiful too. Then, to the central regions there are valleys between the mountains, which are full of wines, you can visit the wineries and taste the delicious wine. 



To the coast, you have cities like Valparaiso, a city with very steep streets, that are really colorful, full of art, poetry, paintings, live music, and crazy wild parties as well! Then to the south you have native virgin forests, more volcanoes, fjords, and a bit more south you have lots of glaciers. There is Rio Puelo, which is a beautiful valley with a emerald river flowing to the sea. 

Further south you have the called Marble Cathedrals, a geographical formation of coloured stones in the middle of a lake. Then, even more south you have Laguna San Rafael, where you can navigate in the glaciers while drinking whisky with millenary ice. And more south one of the most beautiful parks we have that you can visit: Torres del Paine. 

In terms of architecture, there are nice towns and cities, where you can see some autochthonous wooden houses, in my region those are mixed with German colonies who also influenced the architecture a lot. But in general, the best places are more related to nature than to historical buildings.


16. How far south have you traveled in Chile, and what do you feel when looking out over the ocean toward Antarctica — eternity, insignificance, something else?

The southernmost part I've ever visited was Chaitén, still in my region (The X region of the Lakes). Chaitén is a special place, because there is the Chaitén Volcano which erupted in 2008, and the lava went down through the town and through the houses. All the population had to be evacuated and it was very tragic. The place was raining sulfur and ashes for a long time. After the air cleared, some of the people came back, and now people can go there and see the houses mid buried under a black petrified lava river.

The beach there got much bigger, of volcanic black sand, and all the trees that the lava reach are now like black stone statues. It's really beautiful, but grim and dark! I've always wanted to go more to the south. At least, I remember the way back from there, I took a ship and navigated the fjords back to Puerto Montt, and it was amazing. What I miss the most, is the sea. When you look at the vast ocean, you feel a lot of respect for it, and humility about yourself. 





17. I know you’ve hosted Slovaks during their Chile tours — what was the funniest or most memorable reaction you witnessed from them?


I think one of the funny things was when we were in Santiago, and they told me they were going to play in Puerto Montt, so I looked at their clothes and they were really light, so I asked if they were prepared to go, regarding the weather, and they answered "we are Europeans, and we are in South America in spring, so don't worry". I warned them to get warm clothes to go there. Then, they were telling me that it was SO cold, they had to sleep all together next to the chimney, and wear all what they had brought to Chile, layer upon layer, and they were still shaking! 

I also warned them where not to go, because it was dangerous, and there they went! But in general, I think the guys enjoyed themselves a lot. We got along well, their way of having fun, and their way of enjoying music is similar to Chileans, so they made good friends. 


18. What are your favorite venues or festivals in Slovakia or the Czech Republic? 

I prefer small festivals with good underground bands, than the big-ass festivals such as Wacken, Hellfest or Brutal Assault. Obviously, these last many times offer a great number of bands I'd like to see, but the festivals themselves lack the atmosphere I search for, when I see such bands. 

I love Black Silesia in Poland, Chaos Descends in Germany, Prague Death Mass, I also enjoyed the Sinister Purpose in Leipzig. I love going to Pisek in Czechia, for both Heavy Metal Thunder, where I'm actually going to next week, and the Thrash Nightmare. These are perfect in number of bands, number of people going, just Friday and Saturday, so you're not utterly destroyed, etc. In Chile, there are a couple of festivals that are interesting. 

There was one call Evil Confrontation, which had bands such as Tryptikon playing Celtic Frost, Tribulation, Angel Witch, Pagan Altar, Bölzer, and a collection of the best active bands from Chile. 


19. Which album, artwork, or music video has impressed you recently?

This year I'm eagerly waiting for the release of Brand's and Krolok's new albums, as I have had the privilege to listen to how amazing they are going to be! Other than that, I haven't really focused on new things, but on the contrary, I've been digging some old stuff that I unfairly overlooked in the past, trying to get the source of the source of the source of the bands I like, and I have discovered a lot of gems, but nothing specific comes to mind right now.





20. A book, film, TV series, or video game you’d recommend?

About books: in order to continue the topic, if anyone wishes to further investigate about it, the book titled "The Upright Province: Sorcery, a Secret Society, and a Witch Trial in Southern Chile" is about the witchery in Chiloé. I've always liked antology books of short stories, and my favorite of all times is titled "El Aleph y Otros Cuentos" (The Aleph and Other Stories), by Jorge Luis Borges, an Argentinean author.

There's another one I liked, which is much more recent with short horror stories, called "Los Peligros de Fumar en la Cama" (The Dangers of Smoking in Bed) by Mariana Enriquez, an Argentinean author. Also, I love one called "The Paper Menagerie" by Ken Liu, which has short stories that combine science fiction with philosophy and magical realism. 

I also like an essay by Alejandra Pizarnik, another Argentinean author, that is called "La Condesa Sangrienta" (The Bloody Countess), which was beautifully illustrated by the wonderful painter Santiago Carusso, who I had the priviledge to meet and he actually illustrated me the copy of the book with a pen together with a dedication. Unfortunately, I think this illustrated version exists only in Spanish, but I think the essay has been translated to English, and talks about Countess Bathory's story in a different perspective. 

About series: I like The Leftovers, the first season of the True Detectives, and nowadays I'm watching "From", and I'm eagerly waiting for the new season to be released.


21. Is there someone you’d like to see interviewed on Jablká ďaleko od stromu?

I will mention a special guy I know, the coolest guy in Stožok: Janči Obluda!



 

22. Thank you for the interview — any last words?

 
I'm working as a booking agent in Fires Burning, and we are working in organising tours for Asedio, Acero Letal, and the deathrash beasts Ejecutor, who are my maniac friends from Chile. We will bring all these bands and many more to Europe and to Slovakia, so keep an eye on our social networks and support by attending and sharing these events: 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/firesburningprod/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fires.burning/

 
I hope I didn't get anyone bored with my answers.
Thank you for the opportunity to speak about my far away country. 
I love Slovakia.
Long Live Heavy Metal!

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1. Ahoj Maria — môžeš nám povedať, kto si, čo robíš a čo ťa v poslednom čase najviac zaujíma?

Ahoj Tomáš. Myslím si, že som zmes rôznych vecí. Som čilská žena, mama, učiteľka, gazdiná, ktorá rada varí, robí ručné práce a rôzne DIY projekty. Ale nech robím čokoľvek, v pozadí vždy hrá hudba. Možno práve preto by ma veľa ľudí opísalo ako metalistku, ale dnes už mám pocit, že tento štítok nie je tou najzákladnejšou súčasťou toho, kým som, pretože ostatné časti môjho života zaberajú veľa priestoru a času – najmä to, že som mama. Zároveň som dnes oveľa otvorenejšia, pokiaľ ide o hudbu, ktorú počúvam. Metal však bol a stále je do veľkej miery soundtrackom môjho života.

2. Ako sa metal prvýkrát dostal do tvojho života v Čile? Bol nejaký konkrétny moment, album alebo človek, ktorý ťa k nemu priviedol?


K viac undergroundovým kapelám som sa dostala v herni s arkádovými automatmi, kam sme po škole každý deň chodievali so spolužiačkami. Chodili sme na veľmi prísnu katolícku nemeckú školu pre dievčatá, ktorú viedli mníšky, na juhu Čile. Takže som mala na sebe školskú uniformu, ale nosila som čierny džínsový ruksak, na ktorom som mala korektorom napísané logá všetkých kapiel, ktoré som mala rada. Na začiatku som počúvala typické kapely, s ktorými človek začína: Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, Slayer, Pantera a ďalšie, ktoré v tom čase hrali v miestnom rockovom rádiu.

V mojom meste, Puerto Montt, bolo veľa „thrasherov“. „Thrasher“ bol vtedy výraz pre každého metalistu.

Tí chalani boli oveľa starší než my (okolo dvadsiatky). Všimli si naše ruksaky a tak trochu nás „adoptovali“. Začali nám dávať kazety kapiel ako Death, Morbid Angel, Possessed, Deicide, Venom, Bathory a podobne.

Zlomový moment však prišiel, keď mi jeden kamarát, ktorý sa zaujímal o druhú vlnu black metalu (a dokonca mal kapelu spolu s Walterom z Hetroertzen, ktorý je tiež z môjho regiónu, spolu s Gianinou), požičal CD Dark Medieval Times od Satyricon.

Povedal mi, aby som sa zavrela vo svojej izbe, zhasla svetlá, zapálila sviečky a vypočula si celé CD. Presne som sa riadila jeho pokynmi – a navždy ma to zmenilo. Mala som asi 13, skoro 14 rokov, bol rok 1998. Odvtedy som sa úplne ponorila do druhej vlny black metalu a mala som šťastie, že práve v tom regióne Čile bolo – a stále je – veľa kapiel oddaných práve tomuto štýlu.



 

3. Aká je tvoja prvá spomienka na koncert a aký bol prvý album, ktorý si si kúpila za vlastné peniaze?

Keď som ešte žila na juhu, chodila som len na koncerty čilských kapiel. Prvý koncert zahraničnej kapely som videla až po maturite. Keď som mala 17, začala som študovať na univerzite v hlavnom meste a práve tam chodili hrať zahraničné kapely. Pamätám si, že to bol Dark Funeral v roku 2003.

Ďalší nezabudnuteľný bol Iron Maiden v roku 2004. Bola som úplne v prvom rade, doslova pritlačená na bariére. V lete som čakala na slnku asi sedem hodín bez jedla a vody. Organizátori nás polievali hadicami, takže sme len otvárali ústa, aby sme sa napili a neodpadli. Vydržala som to – a spievala som tak hlasno, že som úplne stratila hlas!

Skvelý bol aj koncert Morbid Angel v roku 2004. Setlist bol asi napoly z albumu Covenant a napoly z Altars of Madness. Odvtedy som chodila na koncert alebo gig prakticky každý mesiac.

Čo sa týka prvého albumu, myslím, že som mala asi 13 rokov, keď som si kúpila dve CD: Best of the Beast od Iron Maiden a Living After Midnight: The Best of Judas Priest od Judas Priest.

4. Čile leží medzi púšťami, horami, oceánom a aktívnymi sopkami – odkiaľ v Čile pochádzaš a ako si vnímala túto prírodnú extrémnosť? Mala si niekedy pocit spojenia s niečím takmer neprirodzeným – možno až lovecraftovským – a vytváralo to v tebe sklon k temnote a metalu? Povedala by si, že takéto podmienky sú ideálne pre extrémnu hudbu?

Áno! Pochádzam z juhu Čile, z mesta Puerto Montt, ktoré je akoby vstupnou bránou do Patagonia. Leží na pobreží a v okolí sú ostrovy, fjordy, rozsiahle panenské lesy, aktívne sopky a národné parky. V tejto časti Čile je pomerne chladno. Desať mesiacov v roku tam prší a teplota ani v plnom lete nepresiahne 25 stupňov. V nížinách pri pobreží síce zvyčajne nesneží, ale vrcholy sopiek sú stále pokryté snehom. Typická teplota sa pohybuje okolo 5 až 10 stupňov Celzia.

Tieto krajiny, ich vône, more, lesy a dážď som si vždy spájala s hudbou, ktorú môj otec púšťal v aute – napríklad Creedence Clearwater Revival, ZZ Top, Led Zeppelin a podobne – alebo s nahrávkami, ktoré som počúvala na svojom walkmane.

V tom regióne sa navyše nachádza veľký mystický ostrov Chiloé, kde sa kedysi – a vlastne nie až tak dávno – dialo veľa čarodejníctva a dokonca tam malo istý čas veľký vplyv.

Keď sa posuniete na sever Čile, krajina sa úplne zmení. V Atacama Desert nájdete úplne iné scenérie, opustené mestá duchov a príbehy spojené skôr s hviezdami a pozorovaniami UFO. Bohužiaľ som sever zatiaľ nikdy nenavštívila, ale v blízkej budúcnosti to určite plánujem.


  

5. Keď človek žije v Čile, cíti niekedy určitú izoláciu (vzhľadom na vzdialenosť od zvyšku sveta), alebo nie, pretože komunita je pevná a sebestačná?

Vo všeobecnosti sa my Čiľania cítime trochu, akoby sme žili na ostrove, kvôli geografickej izolácii krajiny. Na severe je Atacama Desert, najsuchšia púšť na Zemi, ktorú je veľmi ťažké prejsť pešo. Na juhu je Antarctica – a z mesta Punta Arenas, ktoré je najjužnejším veľkým mestom Čile, sa dokonca dá loďou vyraziť na Antarktídu.

Na východe máme Andy, ktoré nás oddeľujú od Argentiny, a ich najvyššie vrcholy dosahujú takmer 7 kilometrov. A na západe je obrovský Tichý Oceán.

Hlavné mesto Santiago sa nachádza približne v strede krajiny a všetko je tam veľmi centralizované. Asi 40 % celej populácie žije práve tam a väčšina vecí sa deje práve tam. Je tam medzinárodné letisko, takže asi 99 % koncertov sa koná práve tam. Extrémny sever a juh krajiny však pôsobia takmer ako iný štát.

Pre ľudí z týchto regiónov je často malou odyseou dostať sa do Santiaga – niekedy musia cestovať autobusom dva dni uprostred týždňa len preto, aby videli koncert. Napriek tomu sú Čiľania na túto izoláciu hrdí. Aj preto sa náš španielsky prízvuk tak „zdegeneroval“ – sme trochu ako Austrálčania hovoriaci po anglicky, ak vieš, čo tým myslím.

6. Čo podľa teba robí čilskú metalovú scénu odlišnou od scén, ktoré si zažila inde? Ktoré zahraničné scény sú najbližšie čilskému duchu?


Je to zaujímavé, pretože my juhoamerickí metalisti vo všeobecnosti snívame o metalovej scéne v Európe – o obrovských festivaloch, kde hrá stovka kapiel, ktoré by sme si nikdy ani nevedeli predstaviť vidieť v našej krajine.

Preto keď už nejaká kapela do Južnej Ameriky príde, fanúšikovia naozaj ukazujú svoju vďačnosť a úplne sa zbláznia. Ľudia v Južnej Amerike sú jednoducho šialení! Ich úroveň vášne, energie a absolútnej divokosti je úplne iná. Publikum je skôr také, aké vidíte v starých videoklipoch klasických kapiel z začiatku 80. rokov.





Napríklad v roku 2016 som sa presťahovala do Fínska, kde som žila tri roky až do roku 2018. Myslela som si, že idem do „mekky metalu“, do jednej z najmetalovejších krajín na svete. Milujem veľa kapiel odtiaľ a nemôžem povedať, že by som si ten pobyt neužila – práve naopak.

Ale úprimne ma trochu sklamalo publikum. Začala som byť nostalgická za Čile a priať si, aby som znovu videla koncerty tam. Tento pocit vo mne do istej miery zostal aj vo vzťahu k Európe.

Miesto, kde cítim podobnú vášeň a šialenstvo ako v Južnej Amerike, je Poľsko. Scénu tam mám veľmi rada. Zároveň mám ale pocit, že tá energia sa niekedy môže zmeniť na dosť agresívne správanie – niekedy je tenká hranica medzi tým, či ľudia milujú hudbu alebo len milujú zraziť niekoho na zem v moshpite.

V rámci Južnej Ameriky si myslím, že najsilnejšie scény majú Brazília, Čile a Kolumbia, pokiaľ ide o aktivitu, oddanosť a vášeň.

8. Môžeš priblížiť históriu čilského metalu? Kedy sa začala a aké boli najdôležitejšie míľniky?


Začalo sa to na začiatku 80. rokov, ešte pred mojím narodením (’85), počas diktatúry. Mali sme odpudivo dlhú diktatúru medzi rokmi 1973 a 1990. Väčšinou existovali heavy a thrash metalové kapely, ale aj trochu death metalu. „Deduškovia“ čilskej scény mi rozprávali, že sa stretávali v jednej časti Santiaga, kde organizovali akési tajné koncerty.

Vtedy, keď mal niekto dlhé vlasy, nosil čierne oblečenie a nášivky, považovali ho za hippieho, punkera alebo komunistu (je vtipné si predstaviť, že napríklad vtedy v Československu boli metalisti z rovnakých dôvodov považovaní skôr za antikomunistov!). Často ich zatýkali už len za to, že takto vyzerali na ulici.

To určite ovplyvnilo aj hnev, s akým písali texty a hrali svoju hudbu.

Medzi najdôležitejšie kapely z 80. rokov, ktoré stále hrajú alebo majú dodnes veľký vplyv na scénu, patria napríklad
Atomic Aggressor (death metal, vznik 1985),
Pentagram Chile (thrash/death, tiež 1985),
Death Yell (death/black, 1988),
Sadism (death, 1988),
Darkness (death, 1988),
Totten Korps (death, 1989)
a Apostasy (thrash/black thrash, 1988).
Určite by sa našli aj ďalšie, ale tieto mi teraz napadnú ako prvé.





9. Ktoré čilské kapely považuješ za najdôležitejšie alebo najzaujímavejšie naprieč rôznymi dekádami a prečo?

Okrem tých, ktoré som už spomenula – najmä Atomic Aggressor a Death Yell – existuje veľa ďalších kapiel z rôznych žánrov, ktoré považujem za originálne a skvelé.

Sú stovky kapiel, ktoré kombinujú tradičný old school so juhoamerickou primitívnou energiou, surovosťou a bestialitou. Ich vplyvy sú rôzne a často ich nemožno zaradiť do jednej jasnej škatuľky. A práve tie rozmazané hranice v hudbe mám veľmi rada.

Napríklad Bewitched z 90. rokov – majú veľmi zvláštny zvuk, ale skvelé kompozície a takú príjemne bizarnú atmosféru. Potom je tu Attacker Bloody Axe z Valdivie – označujú ich ako black thrash, ale majú aj speed metalové a rockové prvky. Force of Darkness zase berú to najlepšie z old school juhoamerickej éry a pridávajú k tomu technickejšie prvky. Hades Archer je bestiálny black metal a preslávili sa aj dosť kontroverzným albumom Penis Metal, ktorý obsahuje veľa nenávisti voči ženám – ale úprimne, mňa osobne sa to nijako nedotklo. Potom je tu Abisma z môjho mesta, kde je jasný vplyv raného gréckeho black metalu, ale so špinavou a surovou juhoamerickou atmosférou.

Existujú aj melodickejšie kapely, napríklad Inanna – technický death metal s éterickými pasážami (najmä na ich prvom LP). Z doom metalu sú výborné napríklad Procession, Capilla Ardiente a Poema Arcanus.
Doom/death robia Mar de Grises a folk doom zas Uaral.

Čo sa týka heavy metalu, je tu napríklad Asedio. Kapely Acero Letal a Asedio pôjdu tento rok na turné po Európe – určite si ich pozrite!

A špeciálne by som spomenula projekt Rock and Ron – krátko existujúcu kapelu s extrémne špinavým crossover/thrash punkom a veľmi ofenzívnymi textami v čilskom slangu.

Môhla by som hovoriť o kapelách donekonečna. Každý, kto sa rozhodne pátrať po čilských undergroundových pokladoch, má čo objavovať!





10. Na začiatku 90. rokov niektorí jednotlivci v Nórsku posunuli hranice žánru nielen hudobne, ale aj udalosťami, ktoré viedli k väzeniam a podobne. Mal tento vývoj nejaký vplyv aj na čilský metal? Existovali podobné udalosti aj v miestnom undergrounde?

Áno, vedeli sme, čo sa tam dialo. Druhá vlna black metalu bola pre nás veľmi vplyvná najmä po hudobnej stránke. Pokiaľ ide o vypaľovanie kostolov alebo vraždy, aj u nás sa niečo podobné stalo – ale skôr z politických dôvodov.

Existuje však jeden veľmi známy prípad, ktorý vám môžem povedať. Znie to neuveriteľne, ale je to na 100 % pravda.

Takže čas na príbeh:

V roku 2004 Rodrigo Orias, blackmetalový maniak z mrazivého mesta Coyhaique v srdci Patagónie, prišiel do hlavného mesta a vošiel do katedrály. Uprostred omše vytiahol špeciálnu dýku, ktorú mal so sebou, pristúpil ku kňazovi, zakričal „Hail Satan!“ a podrezal mu hrdlo!

Potom sa pomazal jeho krvou, recitoval ďalšie satanistické formulky a pokúsil sa podrezať aj vlastné hrdlo. Veriaci boli v šoku, zavolali políciu, takže sa nezabil a zatkli ho.

Pamätám si, že vtedy to bolo všade v médiách. V ranných televíznych reláciách vystupovali psychológovia, kňazi, odborníci na sekty, spiritisti – všetci analyzovali tento prípad. Rozoberali Oriasove tetovania, prekladali a analyzovali texty kapely Deicide a podobne.

Nakoniec ho vyhlásili za nevinného, pretože údajne trpel schizofréniou.

O pár mesiacov neskôr však Deicide oznámili koncert v Čile a plagáty zobrazovali Ježišovu tvár s guľkou v čele. Vyvolalo to obrovskú polemiku. Cirkev sa snažila využiť svoj vplyv, aby koncert zrušila, ale nepodarilo sa jej to. Koncert sa konal – bol to úplne prvý koncert Deicide v Čile.

Pamätám si to, akoby to bolo včera. Keď som prišla, stovky metalistov stáli v obrovskom rade a čakali na otvorenie brán. Rada maniakov sa vinula ulicami. Na druhej strane ulice stálo asi 200 príslušníkov špeciálnych jednotiek – helmy, samopaly, štíty – ako keby sa pripravovali na boj s vrahmi kňazov!

Ja som mala vtedy 19 rokov a pred koncertom som si dala dosť alkoholu „na zahriatie“. Keď som prišla do radu, začalo mi byť zle. V tom mojom opitom stave som prešla cez ulicu a nenapadlo mi nič lepšie, než sa vyvracať rovno k nohám policajta.

Policajti na mňa pozerali, ja som sa ospravedlňovala „sorry!!“ a jediné, čo som počula z druhej strany ulice od metalistov, bolo skandovanie: „OHHH brutaaal!!“, „Vomit the Soul!“ a podobné veci!

Tak som sa šla umyť na toaletu niekde nablízku – a potom som bola pripravená na Deicide.

Naozaj nezabudnuteľný zážitok.

 




11. V nedávnom rozhovore s Mateom z kapely Goatcraft som čítal o konfliktoch medzi čilskými kapelami. Je to častý jav? Čo býva ich príčinou a kam až môže taká nevraživosť zájsť?

Je to pravda, hoci našťastie dnes už menej než kedysi. V čilskej scéne sme si občas vytvorili vlastné malé „metalové telenovely“. Vždy sa nájde niekto, kto sa s niekým poháda, kolujú rôzne klebety a podobné veci.

Najčastejšie ide o situácie, keď má niekto pocit, že ho niekto iný okopíroval, prípadne o niekom povedal niečo nepríjemné. Potom sa to začne šíriť medzi ľuďmi, príbehy sa menia, pridávajú sa nové verzie a zrazu už nikto presne nevie, kde je pravda.

Mám pocit, že dnes je to už o niečo pokojnejšie, možno preto, že generácie metalistov sú staršie a trochu múdrejšie. Niekedy sa síce objavia aj ostré slová alebo dokonca vyhrážky, ale v skutočnosti to väčšinou nikdy nezájde tak ďaleko. Aj tak je to však niečo, čo ľudí časom unaví a znechutí. Možno aj preto mi v tomto smere vyhovuje, že dnes žijem trochu ďalej od tejto dynamiky.

12. Ešte predtým, než sa nórska scéna stala celosvetovo známou, experimentovali s odkazom Quorthona kapely v Československu. Boli tieto kapely známe aj v Čile? Dostala sa k vám slovenská alebo česká hudba a ako ju tam vnímali?


Áno, určite. Kapely ako Master's Hammer, Törr a Root boli medzi čilskými fanúšikmi vždy veľmi rešpektované. Ich surový zvuk, temné riffy a spev v češtine pôsobili na čilské publikum veľmi silno a originálne.

Jednou z typických vlastností čilských metalových maniakov je, že radi objavujú hudbu aj z veľmi vzdialených a menej známych scén. Preto mali veľký ohlas aj kapely z takzvaného východného bloku, napríklad poľský Kat.

Je tam veľa zberateľov, ktorí vlastnia prvé vydania starých slovenských či československých kapiel – napríklad Tublatanka, Gladiator, Metalinda alebo dokonca Olympic.

Master’s Hammer hrali v Čile v roku 2018 jeden koncert v bare Lemmy a podľa ľudí, ktorí tam boli, bol podnik úplne preplnený – vraj sa tam už nezmestil ani jeden človek navyše. Bohužiaľ som tam nebola, pretože som v tom čase žila vo Fínsku.

V posledných rokoch tam zanechali silný dojem aj kapely ako Malokarpatan a Krolok. Fanúšikovia by ich veľmi radi videli hrať v Čile – dúfajme, že sa to raz podarí.



 

13. Môžeš priblížiť čilskú mytológiu? Existujú temnejšie mýty alebo legendy, ktoré inšpirujú miestnu scénu?

Áno. Ako som už spomenula, veľa z nich pochádza z veľkého ostrova Chiloé, ktorý je vlastne súostrovím priamo oproti môjmu rodnému mestu v tzv. X. regióne. Tento región má vlastnú mytológiu, príbehy o čarodejniciach a celkovo dosť temnú atmosféru.

Jedným z najznámejších príbehov je legenda o tajnom spolku čarodejníkov nazývanom Recta Provincia („Spravodlivá provincia“). Podľa miestnych rozprávaní nešlo len o obyčajnú legendu, ale o akúsi tajnú organizáciu, ktorá mala na Chiloé veľký vplyv. Miestni ju poznali aj ako La Mayoría. Spájala pôvodné tradície indiánskeho národa Huilliche s európskym okultizmom a údajne si vytvorila vlastný systém pravidiel a spravodlivosti.

Hovorí sa, že zatiaľ čo oficiálna čilská vláda bola ďaleko v Santiagu, títo čarodejníci mali na ostrovoch značnú moc až do konca 19. storočia. Podľa legiend mali dokonca rozdeliť územie na „štáty“, ktorým vládli akísi králi a miestodržitelia.

Ich sídlom mala byť jaskyňa Quicaví ukrytá v útesoch. Legenda hovorí, že ju strážil tvor nazývaný Invunche – dieťa unesené a premenené na monštrum temnou mágiou. Ďalší príbeh spomína magický odev nazývaný Macuñ, ktorý mal umožňovať lietanie a svietenie v tme.

V týchto príbehoch sa realita a mýtus často prelínajú, pretože práve tajomnosť a strach pomáhali udržiavať autoritu týchto legiend. Aj mimo Chiloé existuje v Čile množstvo ďalších regionálnych mýtov a legiend. Väčšinou zobrazujú čilskú divočinu ako miesto plné duchov a bytostí, ktoré trestajú ľudí, ak nerešpektujú prírodu alebo sa vydajú do odľahlých miest nepripravení.





14. Je miestna mytológia v čilskom metale silnou témou, alebo sa kapely skôr držia tradičných satanistických či nihilistických motívov?

Asi nie tak silnou, ako by som si priala. Veľmi by sa mi páčilo, keby sa kapely viac inšpirovali práve týmito témami. Dokonca momentálne pripravujem vlastný projekt, ktorý vychádza z mytológie ostrova Chiloé. Zatiaľ je to ešte len v procese, ale môžem prezradiť, že pôjde o konceptuálny album.

Väčšina kapiel sa však stále drží tradičnejších tém, ako sú satanizmus, okultizmus a podobne. Niektoré skupiny používajú svoju hudbu aj ako formu protestu alebo komentára k politickým témam – napríklad ku konfliktu Mapuche. Ide o dlhodobý spor o pôvodné územia a práva pôvodného obyvateľstva, ktoré boli čilským štátom obsadené počas vojenskej kampane známej ako „Pacifikácia Araukánie“ na konci 19. storočia.

Toto napätie sa dodnes prejavuje protestmi, obsadzovaním pôdy či právnymi sporami, keď komunity Mapuche žiadajú navrátenie územia a uznanie svojich kultúrnych a politických práv.

Niektoré kapely sa vo svojej tvorbe venujú aj vyhladeným alebo takmer zaniknutým pôvodným kultúram v Čile a snažia sa ich tradície pripomenúť a uctiť. Napríklad Xalpen, ktorí dokonca dvakrát hrali aj v Bratislave, čerpajú silnú inšpiráciu z kultúry národa Selk’nam z Ohňovej zeme. Ich hudba je spôsobom, ako zachovať pamiatku na ich dedičstvo, duchovné predstavy a rituály národa, ktorý bol takmer vymazaný systematickou genocídou.

15. Ak by som navštívil Čile, ktoré miesta by som určite nemal vynechať?

To je ťažká otázka! Veľa závisí od toho, čo má človek rád. Čile je totiž neuveriteľne dlhá krajina – keby si ju položil na mapu Európy, siaha približne od juhu Španielska až po sever Nórska. Preto tam nájdeš takmer všetky typy podnebia a krajiny, okrem tropickej.

Ak máš rád more, pozdĺž celého pobrežia sú krásne pláže. Čile je také úzke, že teoreticky môžeš ráno lyžovať v horách a popoludní surfovať na oceáne.

Na severe sa nachádza púšť Atacama, ktorá svojou krajinou pripomína Mars alebo Mesiac – pieskové duny, farebné soľné jazerá a zvláštna fauna, napríklad plameniaky či lamy. Existuje tam aj takzvaná „kvitnúca púšť“, ktorá je veľmi krásna.





V centrálnej časti krajiny sú medzi horami úrodné údolia plné viníc, kde môžeš navštíviť vinárstva a ochutnať miestne vína.

Na pobreží je napríklad mesto Valparaíso – mesto so strmými ulicami, plné farieb, umenia, poézie, nástenných malieb, živej hudby a dosť divokého nočného života.

Na juhu nájdeš pôvodné lesy, sopky, fjordy a ešte južnejšie aj množstvo ľadovcov. Veľmi krásne je údolie Río Puelo so smaragdovou riekou, ktorá tečie k oceánu.

Ešte južnejšie sú takzvané Mramorové katedrály – prírodná formácia farebných skál uprostred jazera. A ešte ďalej na juh je Laguna San Rafael, kde sa dá plaviť medzi ľadovcami a napríklad si dať whisky s tisícročným ľadom.

Jedným z najkrajších národných parkov je Torres del Paine National Park.

Čo sa týka architektúry, existujú aj pekné mestá a dediny s tradičnými miestnymi drevenými domami. V mojom regióne je to navyše ovplyvnené aj nemeckými kolóniami, ktoré mali na miestnu architektúru veľký vplyv. Vo všeobecnosti však najväčšie čaro Čile spočíva skôr v prírode než v historických budovách.





16. Ako ďaleko na juh si sa v Čile dostala a čo cítiš, keď sa pozeráš na oceán smerom k Antarktíde – pocit nekonečna, vlastnej malosti, alebo niečo iné?

Najjužnejšie miesto, ktoré som navštívila, bolo Chaitén, ešte stále v mojom regióne (X. región jazier). Je to zvláštne miesto, pretože v roku 2008 vybuchla sopka Chaitén a láva prešla priamo cez mesto a domy. Celé obyvateľstvo muselo byť evakuované a bola to veľká tragédia. Dlho tam padal popol a síra.

Keď sa situácia upokojila, niektorí obyvatelia sa vrátili a dnes tam možno vidieť domy napoly pochované pod stuhnutým prúdom čiernej lávy.

Pláž sa tam zväčšila a je z čierneho vulkanického piesku. Stromy, ktoré láva zasiahla, dnes vyzerajú ako čierne kamenné sochy. Je to veľmi krásne, ale zároveň trochu temné miesto.

Vždy som chcela ísť ešte ďalej na juh. Spomínam si aspoň na cestu späť – plavila som sa loďou cez fjordy späť do Puerto Montt a bolo to úžasné.

Najviac mi dnes chýba more. Keď sa pozeráš na nekonečný oceán, cítiš k nemu veľký rešpekt a zároveň pokoru voči vlastnej malosti.




17. Viem, že si hostila Slovákov počas ich turné v Čile — aká bola najvtipnejšia alebo najpamätnejšia reakcia, ktorú si od nich zažila?


Jedna z vtipných situácií bola, keď sme boli v Santiagu a oni mi povedali, že idú hrať do Puerto Montt. Pozrela som sa na ich oblečenie a zdalo sa mi dosť ľahké, tak som sa ich opýtala, či sú pripravení na tamojšie počasie.

Odpovedali mi: „Sme Európania a sme v Južnej Amerike na jar, takže sa neboj.“

Ja som ich však varovala, aby si zobrali aj teplejšie veci. Neskôr mi rozprávali, že tam bola taká zima, že spali všetci spolu pri krbe a obliekli si úplne všetko, čo si do Čile priniesli – vrstvu na vrstvu – a aj tak sa triasli od zimy.

Tiež som ich upozornila na miesta, kam by radšej nemali chodiť, pretože sú nebezpečné… a samozrejme, práve tam sa vybrali.

Ale celkovo si myslím, že si to veľmi užili. Dobre sme si rozumeli – ich spôsob zábavy aj prežívania hudby je dosť podobný tomu čilskému, takže si tam rýchlo našli priateľov.

18. Aké sú tvoje obľúbené koncertné miesta alebo festivaly na Slovensku či v Česku?

Vo všeobecnosti mám radšej menšie festivaly s kvalitnými undergroundovými kapelami než veľké masové podujatia ako Wacken Open Air, Hellfest alebo Brutal Assault. Samozrejme, na týchto veľkých festivaloch často hrá množstvo kapiel, ktoré by som rada videla, ale samotná atmosféra už nie je úplne to, čo pri takýchto koncertoch hľadám.

Veľmi sa mi páči napríklad Black Silesia Open Air v Poľsku alebo Chaos Descends v Nemecku. Skvelú atmosféru má aj Prague Death Mass a veľmi som si užila aj Sinister Purpose Festival v Lipsku.

Rada chodím aj do mesta Písek v Česku – či už na Heavy Metal Thunder (na ktorý sa mimochodom chystám už budúci týždeň), alebo na Thrash Nightmare.





Tieto festivaly majú pre mňa ideálnu veľkosť – primeraný počet kapiel, príjemný počet návštevníkov a väčšinou trvajú len dva dni, piatok a sobotu, takže si ich človek môže naplno užiť bez toho, aby bol na konci úplne vyčerpaný.

Aj v Čile existuje niekoľko zaujímavých festivalov. Jeden z nich sa volal Evil Confrontation Festival a vystúpili tam napríklad Triptykon (s repertoárom Celtic Frost), ďalej Tribulation, Angel Witch, Pagan Altar či Bölzer, spolu s výberom najlepších aktuálnych kapiel z čilskej scény.

19. Ktorý album, obal alebo videoklip ťa v poslednom čase zaujal?

Tento rok sa veľmi teším na nové albumy kapiel Brånd a Krolok. Mala som možnosť počuť niektoré veci vopred a znie to naozaj výborne.

Inak som sa v poslednom čase skôr vracala k starším nahrávkam, ktoré som kedysi trochu nespravodlivo prehliadala. Snažím sa ísť takpovediac k „zdroju zdroja zdroja“ kapiel, ktoré mám rada. Pri tom som objavila množstvo skvelých vecí, hoci teraz mi nenapadá jeden konkrétny príklad.

20. Vieš odporučiť nejakú knihu, film, seriál alebo videohru?

Čo sa týka kníh, ak by niekoho zaujímala téma, o ktorej sme sa bavili, odporúčam knihu
The Upright Province: Sorcery, a Secret Society, and a Witch Trial in Southern Chile, ktorá sa venuje čarodejníctvu na ostrove Chiloé.

Mám rada aj antológie poviedok. Moja úplne najobľúbenejšia je El Aleph y Otros Cuentos od Jorge Luis Borges.

Z novších kníh sa mi veľmi páčila zbierka hororových poviedok Los Peligros de Fumar en la Cama od Mariana Enriquez.

Veľmi mám rada aj knihu The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories od Ken Liu, ktorá kombinuje science fiction s filozofiou a magickým realizmom.

Z esejí by som spomenula La Condesa Sangrienta od Alejandra Pizarnik. Ilustroval ju skvelý maliar Santiago Carusso, ktorého som mala dokonca možnosť osobne stretnúť – a do môjho výtlačku knihy mi priamo nakreslil ilustráciu aj s venovaním. Myslím, že ilustrovaná verzia existuje len v španielčine, ale samotná esej bola preložená aj do angličtiny a ponúka zaujímavý pohľad na príbeh grófky Báthoryovej.

Zo seriálov mám veľmi rada The Leftovers a prvú sériu True Detective. Momentálne pozerám seriál From a netrpezlivo čakám na ďalšiu sériu.





21. Je niekto, koho by si rád videl v rozhovore na Jablká ďaleko od stromu?

Spomenula by som jedného špeciálneho človeka, ktorého poznám – najväčšieho pohodára zo Stožku: Jančiho Obludu!

22. Ďakujeme za rozhovor — chceš na záver niečo odkázať čitateľom?

Pracujem ako booking agent v Fires Burning a podieľame sa na organizovaní turné pre kapely Asedio, Acero Letal a deathrashové beštie Ejecutor, ktorí sú moji maniacki kamaráti z Chile. Tieto kapely — a mnohé ďalšie — privedieme do Európy aj na Slovensko, takže sledujte naše sociálne siete a podporte nás tým, že prídete na koncerty a budete tieto podujatia zdieľať. 

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Mám rada Slovensko.
Nech žije heavy metal!